Education transcripts

Donna:

00:00 – 00:01

Where did you go to school?

Alex:

00:02 – 00:10

I went to this special school that, um, had a waiting list. I went to, uh, I went to, uh, Tolworth Juniors.

Donna:

00:10 – 00:11

Ah.

Alex:

00:11 – 00:37

And, um, uh, because of my grommets and stuff, and I was falling behind, and the teacher said he need he needs to be more specialised in his learning, um, and things. And my sister went there as well. Um, but, but, um, she went on to another school, and I went to a school called St Philip’s in Chessington. That was widely known back then.

Donna:

00:37 – 00:38

Mm.

Alex:

00:38 – 00:41

Um, now it’s not as good.

Donna:

00:41 – 00:41

N-N-No.

Alex:

00:41 – 00:42

As what it was.

Donna:

00:42 – 00:44

It’s gone downhill, you think?

Alex:

00:44 – 00:55

Uh, well, they tried to in, in, in as, as a theory, um, they, they tried to say, “Oh, um, we’ll mix normal kids with special kids.”

Donna:

00:55 – 00:55

Oh, really?

Alex:

00:55 – 01:04

In one in, in, in some that could be a plus, but in others, I, I just think, no, the school policy was looking for more money.

Donna:

01:04 – 01:04

Yeah, there was.

Alex:

01:05 – 01:10

And, and, and really relecting on, I think, the special side of it. But that’s my view, but.

Donna:

01:11 – 01:11

And.

Alex:

01:11 – 01:46

Um, yeah, but that’s what I went to St Philip’s, and I went there in 1987 and left in ’97. Um, and in, in the junior end, I met my, my school friends. And one of my best mates I met in year three, um, Watson Murdoch. And, uh, yeah, we, we used to, um, yeah, I, I, I was I was a good I was a good kid, but I, I used to misbehave, and I was cheeky. Um, but I was I think I got on well with the teachers, so I used to get away with a lot of murder.

Donna:

01:46 – 01:50

So, so, so did you were basically, can I say, um, a teacher’s pet? D-did you act like that?

Alex:

01:50 – 02:00

No, not really a teacher’s pet. I, I, I, I would say tea- I could I’m, I’m very likable, and, uh, and they, they knew I they knew I was trouble.

Donna:

02:01 – 02:01

Okay.

Alex:

02:01 – 02:06

In, in, like, mysterio like, troublemaking and stuff, but I seemed to get away with it.

Donna:

02:06 – 02:10

Y-y-y-you get away with things that m all people’s all teachers would.

Alex:

02:10 – 02:13

So, so if somebody else did it, they used to tell them off and stuff like that.

Donna:

02:13 – 02:13

Yeah, used to tell

Alex:

02:13 – 02:20

But that wasn’t just one teacher. I seemed to, as a core, most of all the teachers and even the head liked me, so.

Donna:

02:20 – 02:23

Did, did, did any old people got jealous, or they were fine with it?

Alex:

02:24 – 02:59

I think I dunno. I mean, it’s people that, that I caused everyone, even that could happen, but I think I think at school you’re all learning your ground, and even at home life you’re testing barriers with your own folks. So there’s a lot of processing in your early life, but I, I know what my mum used to teach me, and even through school, you’ve gotta know what’s right and wrong, and, and, and, um, so even if I did misbehave, I knew what was right and wrong. And, and sometimes.

Donna:

02:59 – 02:59

Yeah you did.

Alex:

02:59 – 03:09

Sometimes teachers did come up with and said something, and, you know, they, they didn’t, like, let me g take complete control, but yeah, I, I can say, yeah.

Donna:

03:09 – 03:12

They still disciplined you, but, but not in a harsh way.

Alex:

03:13 – 03:26

No, yeah, it’s just yeah, you just got as anything, you got no, um, to draw the line on that. And sometimes I, I, I still today I, I, I have troubles with it, so.

Donna:

03:26 – 03:26

Okay.

Alex:

03:26 – 03:38

It, it, it could be dealing with personality and, and, and life experiences, and sometimes you need as, as even adults, even as adults, you f- some people find to you have to do it the hard way than the easy way, so.

Donna:

03:39 – 03:44

Yeah, yeah, do sometimes some of them the hard way work. Sometimes the easy way work depends on, on the situation, isn’t it?

Alex:

03:44 – 03:59

It’s it can come down over years of experience, and then the wisdom comes in, and you go, “Well, I can’t be bothered to do the hard way.” So you, you, you find it you start thinking outside the box to, to sort things out, I think, is the point.

Donna:

03:59 – 04:03

Okay, let’s move on to the next question. What was your favourite subject?

Alex:

04:04 – 04:08

I’d say history and football. I was I’ve, I’ve played a lot of sports.

Angela:

00:00-00:40

I went to St. George’s School when I was 13. I went to Peel Park, George’s School, yeah, Catholic school ’cause I’m a Catholic. I’m a Roman Catholic. I had my first Holy Communion at Mackie Conception with Father McKay, and I had my confirmation at St Patty’s Church at Westgate with Bishop Wheeler of Leeds. And the confirmation he said, “What would you like your confirmation name to be?” And I said, “Bernadette.” I went with Bernadette for the confirmation name. But I believe the bishop of my maj-, but, you know, he confirmed me, Bishop of Leeds, Bishop Wheeler.

Will:

00:41-00:42

Do you still go to church on a Sunday?

Angela:

00:42-00:45

Well, I’m gonna start going back to church. I am.

Stuart:

00:00-00:01

What school did you go to?

Claire:

00:01-00:14

I went to three different schools. I went to Preston Primary, which I got bullied, got called four eyes, blue eyed, and I didn’t really, that was my first school, and I didn’t really get on well with them.

Stuart:

00:16-00:20

Could you elaborate on why those people were doing that to you?

Claire:

00:20-01:12

Because, because they, they took the mickey out of me how I walk and my speech, and they just called me names which I didn’t like, so I went to, to my parents, parents, and told mum and dad that I didn’t want to go to that school, and I really wanted to go to where I can be looked after. Like, I went to Steps Cross, which I loved Steps Cross because of, um, the teachers there were ever so lovely. I, I knew quite a few teachers there. I knew a a friend of mine called Eve Scrivener, who I know and needs to work with me now, so I went to school with her sons. I went to school with her sons, which is a small world out there.

Stuart:

01:12-01:12

Yep.

Claire:

01:12-01:14

Yeah, a small world.

Stuart:

01:14-01:19

So how did you find it going to school with Anita’s son?

Claire:

01:19-01:37

It was a really strange because when, when we did when, when we first did that bread and all that, that bread and things, but I knew Cory from there, so I, I knew him when he was, like, little and knowing, knowing each other since.

Stuart:

01:38-01:43

Hmm. So how was school life for you with Coby?

Claire:

01:45-02:07

It was fine, and I went to school with couple of other friends I met up with. I met with Paul Hopwich and Thomas Taffley, and as nice that I still can remember there. Paul and Thomas Taff, they were my best friends because they got into football, they got into Newcastle United, so.

Lewis:

00:00-00:05

What did you were your early school years like?

David:

00:08-00:22

Um, um, I don’t know.

Gareth:

00:22-00:23

You don’t know. Did you enjoy school?

David:

00:23-00:24

Yeah.

Lewis:

00:25-00:00:27

Did you enjoy school?

David:

00:27-00:41

Yeah. I, I, I’ve got I’ve I, um, got a teacher I was, um, teacher’s pet.

Gareth:

00:41-00:43

You were a teacher’s pet?

David:

00:43-00:45

Yeah. Not, not a dog, but.

Gareth:

00:45-00:46

Not a dog.

David:

00:48-00:49

A, a person.

Gareth:

00:49-00:50

A person.

Lewis:

00:51-00:55

What subjects did you like best or least?

David:

00:56-01:00

Um, I liked it all.

Gareth:

01:01-01:02

You liked it all?

David:

01:02-01:02

Mm-hmm.

Lewis:

01:06-01:10

Who were your friends when you were growing up?

David:

01:11-01:15

Yes. I don’t I don’t know the names.

Gareth:

01:15-01:16

You don’t know the names?

David:

01:16-01:17

No.

Lewis:

01:23-01:26

What did you enjoy doing together?

David:

01:29-01:29

Playing.

Gareth:

01:30-01:31

Playing.

David:

01:32-01:32

Yeah.

Gareth:

01:34-01:35

What did you play?

David:

01:35-01:35

Cricket outside.

Gareth:

01:37-01:39

Cricket outside.

David:

01:39-01:39

And rounders.

Gareth:

01:40-01:41

And rounders.

Lewis:

01:41-01:50

Nice. Did you like to bowl or bat?

David:

01:51-01:52

Bat.

Alex:

00:00-00:04

Yes. What do you think are the really good things that you do now that you’re proud of, Ivor?

Ivor:

00:04-00:05

Hmm.

Alex:

00:07-00:14

So we’ve got when you got your certificate.

Ivor:

00:14-00:15

Mm.

Alex:

00:15-00:19

And for the work you used to do in the activity centre for the college.

Ivor:

00:19-00:20

College, yeah.

Alex:

00:20-00:22

And what sort of things did you do?

Ivor:

00:22-00:24

I’m painting.

Alex:

00:24-00:24

Painting, yeah.

Ivor:

00:25-00:26

And all that

Alex:

00:26-00:27

What else did you used to do?

Ivor:

00:27-00:30

I, I, positing.

Alex:

00:31-00:32

Do your colours?

Ivor:

00:32-00:33

Uh.

Alex:

00:33-00:34

And your numbers?

Ivor:

00:34-00:34

Mm-hmm.

Alex:

00:34-00:37

Yeah? And you ended up getting that certificate, didn’t you, from the college?

Ivor:

00:37-00:38

Yes.

Alex:

00:38-00:41

And this was the presentation day, wasn’t it?

Ivor:

00:41-00:41

Mm-hmm.

Alex:

00:42-00:44

Yeah? And you were with all your friends?

Ivor:

00:44-00:45

Mm-hmm.

Alex:

00:45-00:47

And what other things do you do here?

Ivor:

00:51-00:51

Hmm-hmm.

Alex:

00:51-00:53

You should be very proud of yourself there.

Ivor:

00:53-00:54

Mm-hmm.

Alex:

00:54-00:57

Yeah? You’re doing a weekly shop.

Ivor:

00:57-00:58

Weekly shop, yeah.

Alex:

00:59-01:00

Do you think that’s something to be proud of?

Ivor:

01:00-01:01

Mm. Yeah.

Alex:

01:01-01:02

Yeah?

Peter:

00:00-00:02

Which secondary school did you go to?

Jamie:

00:03-01:29

Woldgate School because sometimes, um, before I’d been bullied before, um, high, higher, um, school, um. Students, and, um, saying nasty things about me, but that memory is, um, I had a Woldgate School, and, um, I don’t like it and don’t be bullied.

That means, um, I was very, um, overwhelming in, in, in memory. And, um, in part of me, some things really very good in Woldgate School. I moved on from that.

Alex:

00:00-00:02

What kind of school did you go to?

Raymond:

00:04-00:22

Um, right. Well, these, these schools were sort of like, um, how they call how they say how they say, um, what do they call? Special school, special school sort of.

Alex:

00:22-00:22

Mm-hmm.

Raymond:

00:22-01:13

Uh, it was sort of like these, these schools for sort of like people with, um, um, who were sort of like past, partially sighted, like as I as I am, um, and, um, the, the, um, um, Clarendon wasn’t, wasn’t w- the head master wasn’t all that strict, but he ta he tell he tell he tell tell the children off, but then if they’d Done wrong, but it he, he, he, he, he didn’t believe in the cane, Mr. Dorey didn’t. Um, but at the other school, the old sc- old school, Marjorie Kinnon School.

Alex:

01:13-01:13

Hmm.

Raymond:

01:14-01:44

The both the headma- headmistress and headmaster were sort of if, if a sort of if a person if a pupil is out of line, goes out, s-s-says or does anything out of line, they’re they sort of like they sort of like get their, their, their, their, their sent to the, the headmister, headmistress, headmaster, and then, and then they’re and then they were then they were caned.

Alex:

01:46-01:52

Alright. So well, yeah. That’s not what happens today thank god.

Raymond:

01:54-01:54

Hmm.

Alex:

01:54-01:56

Did, did you ever get caned?

Raymond:

01:57-02:05

No, no. I was told I was told off for I was told off a bit but never, never, never that I didn’t do anything sort of.

Alex:

02:06-02:07

that serious.

Raymond:

02:07-02:09

That serious, no, no.

Alex:

02:09-02:11

So that had to be something really.

Raymond:

02:11-02:12

Yeah.

Alex:

02:12-02:15

Outdate or what they are deemed to be serious, I see.

Raymond:

02:15-02:17

Yeah, yeah.

Hannah:

00:00-00:02

When did you get diagnosed with your autism?

Sarah:

00:02-00:04

I was about five.

Hannah:

00:04-00:06

Okay. Um, and when.

Sarah:

00:06-00:11

They knew I had so they knew in my mum’s tummy ’cause my mum has epilepsy.

Hannah:

00:11-00:12

Okay.

Sarah:

00:13-00:29

Um, they knew when I was in my mum’s tummy that I was going to have some sort of disability, and they knew I would be small. I’m 4 foot 11 and a half, so they knew I was going to be quite small, but they didn’t know what my disabilities was until I got to school.

Hannah:

00:29-00:29

Mm-hmm.

Sarah:

00:29-00:35

And I was diagnosed with ADHD, autism, dyslexia, and dyspraxia.

Hannah:

00:35-00:36

Okay.

Sarah:

00:36-00:39

But they all kind of linked together anyway.

Hannah:

00:39-00:42

And did you get a lot of, like, support for that or?

Sarah:

00:42-00:50

Not as much at first, but then I did at my other, the other school I went to, the primary school that I moved to.

Hannah:

00:50-58

And obviously, like, when you were talking about your mental health, do you think it was hard to communicate with other people and other people maybe didn’t understand you?

Sarah:

00:58-01:05

Yeah. ‘Cause they don’t always know what’s they might just think you’re having a you’re being a naughty kid.

Hannah:

01:05-01:08

And how did that make you feel that people thought you were being naughty?

Sarah:

01:08-01:18

It made me upset because obviously people are all different, but they didn’t get to know me as a person.

Hannah:

01:19-01:21

Do you think they just made assumptions about you?

Sarah:

01:21-01:56

Yeah. And then when I had my tutors, they I had one in my very first primary school, which was my teacher. She would come to my house on Tuesday. And then my when I was in junior school, I got another ’cause I had to move back to another the other junior school that I was so where my school was, it was Woodhouse Primary that I had to move to from Wellacre. It’s called Baker Hall now. But then from Baker Hall, I had to go back there to the junior school ’cause their junior school was full.

Hannah:

01:56-01:58

So there’s a lot of changes for you.

Sarah:

01:58-02:03

And it was hard to understand why I had to keep swipping, swapping.

Hannah:

02:03-02:07

Yeah. And how did you cope with those changes? Like.

Sarah:

02:07-02:09

I, I think I did.

Hannah:

02:09-02:12

How did it feel for you? Just frustrating and.

Sarah:

02:12-02:12

Yeah.

Hannah:

02:13-02:13

Yeah.

Sarah:

02:13-02:15

‘Cause I didn’t know why I had to keep changing.

Scott:

00:00-00:08

What is your earliest memory of where you were born? What do you have any memories of being young up in Derbyshire?

Sean:

00:08-00:12

Um, I remember being at school there.

Scott:

00:12-00:14

Yeah. You went to school in Derbyshire?

Sean:

00:14-00:14

Yes.

Scott:

00:15-00:18

Was that, um, primary school or secondary school?

Sean:

00:18-00:20

No, it’s a se special school.

Scott:

00:20-00:22

Oh, you went to a special school.

Sean:

00:22-00:23

I went to a special school, yeah.

Scott:

00:23-00:26

Did you did you like the school? Did it help you?

Sean:

00:26-00:27

It did, yes.

Scott:

00:27-00:30

Could you tell me some stories about what you got up to at school?

Sean:

00:31-00:36

Well, they, they used to teach me lots of maths and that.

Scott:

00:36-00:36

Yeah.

Sean:

00:37-00:39

And I did really well there.

Scott:

00:39-00:40

Yeah. You enjoyed going?

Sean:

00:40-00:42

I enjoyed going to that school, yes.

Scott:

00:42-00:43

Did you make many friends there?

Sean:

00:43-00:45

I made loads of friends there.

Scott:

00:45-00:48

Yeah? Did you have one in particular nice friend?

Sean:

00:48-00:49

Um.

Scott:

00:50-00:51

Like buddy-buddy, you know?

Sean:

00:51-00:52

Buddy-buddy.

Scott:

00:52-00:54

Just you guys and sometimes.

Sean:

00:55-00:57

Hang on. Yes, Jason.

Scott:

00:57-00:58

Jason.

Sean:

00:58-00:58

Yes.

Scott:

00:59-01:01

Could I ask do you still see him now or

Sean:

01:01-01:01

No.

Scott:

01:01-01:04

have you gone your separate ways when as you grow older?

Sean:

01:04-01:08

‘Cause, ’cause now I’m in Cornwall, I don’t get a chance to see him.

Scott:

01:08-01:11

So how long were you in Derbyshire for?

Sean:

01:12-01:15

Uh, up to 1996.

Scott:

01:15-01:18

1996. So you were six almost 16, yeah.

Sean:

01:18-01:19

16. I was 16.

Donna:

00:00-00:02

What was school life like?

William:

00:02-00:35

Um, well, I, I first of all, I went to Narwood no, I went to Rose Green, um, infant. Um, that was quite good. Um, obviously didn’t learn much when I was an infant, but later on in life I went to Rose Green, um, senior school. Um, what was life like? Well, in those days, you had corporal punishment.

Donna:

00:36-00:36

Oh, yeah.

William:

00:37-01:22

Where you got hit with a cane. Yeah. And what we used to do was put plates down our trousers, to stop you getting hit. Used to put plates and magazines in your pants to stop you getting hit. But it didn’t always work ’cause the teacher knew when you bent over. Yeah. And then I went to later on, I went to Narwood C of E. Um, when I was at, uh, St Antony’s, I got caught up. My mate didn’t like the head teacher of the senior form, Mr. Lewis. Now, bear in mind, this chap was nearly 7 foot and wore size 13 boots.

Donna:

01:22-01:23

Oh, yeah I can imagine.

William:

01:23-01:25

Dr. Martins, and he was a copper.

Donna:

01:25-01:25

Yeah.

William:

01:26-01:35

So he was he’s as a poli- a teacher, he still used being a copper to his advantage.

Donna:

01:36-01:38

Oh, I see. He was.

William:

01:38-01:58

So we he my mate went through a pair of scissors ’cause he, um, at him across his ear hole when it went landed in the black board. It actually span across his ear hole, landed in the black board. Now, obviously, this is a pretty dangerous thing to do.

Donna:

01:58-01:59

Yes, it is.

William:

01:59-02:03

And, um, ’cause he could have been classed as throwing a flick knife.

Donna:

02:03-02:04

Oh, yeah.

William:

02:04-02:10

And, um, it didn’t catch his ear, but he did hear the scissors hit the black board, and he was facing our way.

Donna:

02:11-02:11

Yeah.

William:

02:11-02:32

And I and I don’t know how the hell it is, but teachers always realise the back of your head and remember the back of your head, and they do the front of your head. So anyway, he pulled us out all three of us, and he said, “Right, you’re gonna get a hanging.” Now, what that was was you hung from the ladders.

Donna:

02:32-02:32

Oh.

William:

02:32-02:34

He kicked you in the back of the legs and jerked you out.

Donna:

02:34-02:35

Oh, that is.

William:

02:35-02:02:36

And he said, “Right.

Donna:

02:36-02:36

That’s terrible.

William:

02:37-02:39

You hang there until I tell you.

Donna:

02:39-02:40

That’s terrible.

William:

02:40-02:44

Yeah. And this will make your arms harder, won’t it?

Donna:

02:44-02:44

Oh.

William:

02:44-02:45

And, um.

Donna:

02:45-02:46

I can imagine. I can imagine.

William:

02:46-02:49

You know. And afterwards, do you know what we did?

Donna:

02:49-02:50

What, what did you do?

William:

02:50-02:51

We got back at him.

Donna:

02:51-02:52

Did you?

William:

02:52-02:55

Yeah. We were playing football. My mate snapped his shin cap.

Donna:

02:55-02:55

So to.

William:

02:56-02:57

Sent him to A&E.

Donna:

02:57-03:00

So too right its its its after what he did to you.

William:

02:58-03:09

For about two weeks. Went in on a tackle and he broke his shin cap straight up and just popped. Had to send him off to hospital.

Donna:

03:09-03:11

That’s good.

William:

03:11-03:22

Yeah. So my my mate turned round he said, “Oh , Mr. Lewis.” He said, “Well, I’ll tell you what.” He said, “My arms might be hard, but your legs probably not hard enough to be snapped.”